To your list of present communication routes, Sarah, I would add the Science Advisory
Forum.
Other fora that might be considered are the IDG Meeting (hits a cross-section of inst
scientists), the Neutron Users Meeting (hits a subset of UK users), and an additional
popup window when you first run a new version (hits all users) saying 'The following
algorithms are deprecated in this release and are due to be removed in vx.x.x. If you have
any concerns please contact...'?
Steve
From: Sarah Foxley - STFC UKRI <sarah.foxley(a)stfc.ac.uk>
Sent: 20 October 2023 14:51
To: Manuel, Pascal (STFC,RAL,ISIS) <pascal.manuel(a)stfc.ac.uk>uk>;
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Subject: [Mpb] Re: Communicating with Mantid Users
We having been working on drafting a policy with SNS whilst we have been out there. It
will be based on usage data but there are some caveats I believe. Rob was working in the
group looking at the usage data.
Rob - what was the outcome of that session?
From: Manuel, Pascal (STFC,RAL,ISIS)
<pascal.manuel@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:pascal.manuel@stfc.ac.uk>>
Sent: 18 October 2023 23:40
To: Foxley, Sarah (STFC,RAL,ISIS)
<sarah.foxley@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:sarah.foxley@stfc.ac.uk>>;
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Subject: Re: Communicating with Mantid Users
I would say that almost nobody reads the announcement emails, forum, release notes....
How is the decision made to depreciate algorithms in the first place? My recollection is
that we were capturing the usage, is it based on that?
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From: Sarah Foxley - STFC UKRI
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Subject: [Mpb] Communicating with Mantid Users
Dear all,
Several of us are currently attending the Mantid Developer meeting at SNS. One of the
things that has come up is deprecating algorithms that are no longer in use. The first
step is to put together a policy for how we do it. This will include things like steps to
take to ensure an algorithm is suitable for deprecation and how long we leave between
initial deprecation notice and removal.
It strikes me that I don't feel I have an adequate grasp of how we are communicating
with our users at ISIS. As far as I'm aware we have the announcements e-mail list (but
not sure who looks at these e-mails), the forum (which is rarely used) and sub team leads
meeting/e-mailing their contacts. I also know information like deprecations are in the
release notes/help but are people seeing this and are these methods a little late in the
process?
I'm wondering if there are other informal ways we've been communicating? Are there
better ways we could get news out?
Rather than trying to discuss this via e-mail is this something we can discuss at our MPB
meeting on 22nd November?
Thanks
Sarah
Sarah Foxley
Scientific Software Engineer & Mantid Project Manager
Science and Technology Facilities Council
Phone - 01235 446938
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